Discussion:
MTP Porting Kit / Creative Zen V Plus
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Dean Hannotte (http://www.hannotte.net/)
2006-11-01 05:34:01 UTC
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Somebody bought me a new Zen V Plus player from Creative, but
unfortunately I'm using Windows 2000, which is not officially supported. I
probably won't upgrade my OS for a few more years because I'm very concerned
about stability. In the meantime, I'd like to use the Zen in some way. Even
if I can't load all the supporting utility software from the accompanying CD,
there should be some way for me to be able to just copy files from my hard
disk to the Zen's file system and play them. That in itself would be a
quantum leap over having no MP3 player at all.

However, the V Plus does not look like a little hard disk to Windows, so
I can't use Explorer to copy the files. As far as I have been able to learn,
the V Plus uses flash memory and Media Transfer Protocol (MTP), which is
supported in Windows Media Player 10 (which is only supported under Windows
XP).

HOWEVER ... Microsoft recently released a Media Transfer Protocol Porting
Kit -- see http://msdn.microsoft.com/windowsmedia/downloads/default.aspx --
to add MTP support to WMPlayer 9, the last one that worked under Windows
2000. But it's not easy to set up. After installing it and reading the
Readme-Redist.txt file, you run MTP9x-2k.exe, which installs the following
files:

- %windir%/System32/drivers
- wpdusb9x.sys (Windows 98SE or Windows ME)
OR wpdusb.sys (Windows 2000)
- %windir%/System32
- mtpiusb.dll
- mtpsmgr.exe
- mtpistb.dll
- mtpsp.dll
- %windir%/Inf
- wpdmtp.inf

But then you have to edit a .inf file to describe the attributes of your
player. This is beyond my technical ability. So ...

1) Am I right to think that I can get basic MP3 player use from the V
Plus just by installing the MTP Porting Kit, or do I really need to upgrade
to Windows XP?

2) If the Porting Kit will work, can anybody help me write a .inf file
that will be correct for the V Plus? I'd really by happy with just minimal
functionality.

Thanks for your help!
chris1379
2006-12-26 05:40:38 UTC
Permalink
I'm facing the same problem here. Did you ever get it to work?

Chris

Dean Hannotte (http://www.hannotte.net/ http://www.hannotte.net/)
Post by Dean Hannotte (http://www.hannotte.net/)
Somebody bought me a new Zen V Plus player from Creative, but
unfortunately I'm using Windows 2000, which is not officially supported. I
probably won't upgrade my OS for a few more years because I'm very concerned
about stability. In the meantime, I'd like to use the Zen in some way. Even
if I can't load all the supporting utility software from the accompanying CD,
there should be some way for me to be able to just copy files from my hard
disk to the Zen's file system and play them. That in itself would be a
quantum leap over having no MP3 player at all.
However, the V Plus does not look like a little hard disk to Windows, so
I can't use Explorer to copy the files. As far as I have been able to learn,
the V Plus uses flash memory and Media Transfer Protocol (MTP), which is
supported in Windows Media Player 10 (which is only supported under Windows
XP).
HOWEVER ... Microsoft recently released a Media Transfer Protocol Porting
Kit -- see http://msdn.microsoft.com/windowsmedia/downloads/default.aspx --
to add MTP support to WMPlayer 9, the last one that worked under Windows
2000. But it's not easy to set up. After installing it and reading the
Readme-Redist.txt file, you run MTP9x-2k.exe, which installs the following
- %windir%/System32/drivers
- wpdusb9x.sys (Windows 98SE or Windows ME)
OR wpdusb.sys (Windows 2000)
- %windir%/System32
- mtpiusb.dll
- mtpsmgr.exe
- mtpistb.dll
- mtpsp.dll
- %windir%/Inf
- wpdmtp.inf
But then you have to edit a .inf file to describe the attributes of your
player. This is beyond my technical ability. So ...
1) Am I right to think that I can get basic MP3 player use from the V
Plus just by installing the MTP Porting Kit, or do I really need to upgrade
to Windows XP?
2) If the Porting Kit will work, can anybody help me write a .inf file
that will be correct for the V Plus? I'd really by happy with just minimal
functionality.
Thanks for your help!
tetong
2007-02-08 01:50:25 UTC
Permalink
Post by chris1379
I'm facing the same problem here. Did you ever get it to work?
Chris
Dean Hannotte (http://www.hannotte.net/ http://www.hannotte.net/)
Post by Dean Hannotte (http://www.hannotte.net/)
Somebody bought me a new Zen V Plus player from Creative, but
unfortunately I'm using Windows 2000, which is not officially supported. I
probably won't upgrade my OS for a few more years because I'm very concerned
about stability. In the meantime, I'd like to use the Zen in some way. Even
if I can't load all the supporting utility software from the
accompanying CD,
Post by chris1379
Post by Dean Hannotte (http://www.hannotte.net/)
there should be some way for me to be able to just copy files from my hard
disk to the Zen's file system and play them. That in itself would be a
quantum leap over having no MP3 player at all.
However, the V Plus does not look like a little hard disk to Windows, so
I can't use Explorer to copy the files. As far as I have been able to learn,
the V Plus uses flash memory and Media Transfer Protocol (MTP), which is
supported in Windows Media Player 10 (which is only supported under Windows
XP).
HOWEVER ... Microsoft recently released a Media Transfer Protocol Porting
Kit -- see
http://msdn.microsoft.com/windowsmedia/downloads/default.aspx --
Post by chris1379
Post by Dean Hannotte (http://www.hannotte.net/)
to add MTP support to WMPlayer 9, the last one that worked under Windows
2000. But it's not easy to set up. After installing it and reading the
Readme-Redist.txt file, you run MTP9x-2k.exe, which installs the following
- %windir%/System32/drivers
- wpdusb9x.sys (Windows 98SE or Windows ME)
OR wpdusb.sys (Windows 2000)
- %windir%/System32
- mtpiusb.dll
- mtpsmgr.exe
- mtpistb.dll
- mtpsp.dll
- %windir%/Inf
- wpdmtp.inf
But then you have to edit a .inf file to describe the attributes of your
player. This is beyond my technical ability. So ...
1) Am I right to think that I can get basic MP3 player use from the V
Plus just by installing the MTP Porting Kit, or do I really need to upgrade
to Windows XP?
2) If the Porting Kit will work, can anybody help me write a .inf file
that will be correct for the V Plus? I'd really by happy with just minimal
functionality.
Thanks for your help!
tetong
2007-02-08 01:56:06 UTC
Permalink
Post by chris1379
I'm facing the same problem here. Did you ever get it to work?
Chris
Dean Hannotte (http://www.hannotte.net/ http://www.hannotte.net/)
Post by Dean Hannotte (http://www.hannotte.net/)
Somebody bought me a new Zen V Plus player from Creative, but
unfortunately I'm using Windows 2000, which is not officially supported. I
probably won't upgrade my OS for a few more years because I'm very concerned
about stability. In the meantime, I'd like to use the Zen in some way. Even
if I can't load all the supporting utility software from the
accompanying CD,
Post by chris1379
Post by Dean Hannotte (http://www.hannotte.net/)
there should be some way for me to be able to just copy files from my hard
disk to the Zen's file system and play them. That in itself would be a
quantum leap over having no MP3 player at all.
However, the V Plus does not look like a little hard disk to Windows, so
I can't use Explorer to copy the files. As far as I have been able to learn,
the V Plus uses flash memory and Media Transfer Protocol (MTP), which is
supported in Windows Media Player 10 (which is only supported under Windows
XP).
HOWEVER ... Microsoft recently released a Media Transfer Protocol Porting
Kit -- see
http://msdn.microsoft.com/windowsmedia/downloads/default.aspx --
Post by chris1379
Post by Dean Hannotte (http://www.hannotte.net/)
to add MTP support to WMPlayer 9, the last one that worked under Windows
2000. But it's not easy to set up. After installing it and reading the
Readme-Redist.txt file, you run MTP9x-2k.exe, which installs the following
- %windir%/System32/drivers
- wpdusb9x.sys (Windows 98SE or Windows ME)
OR wpdusb.sys (Windows 2000)
- %windir%/System32
- mtpiusb.dll
- mtpsmgr.exe
- mtpistb.dll
- mtpsp.dll
- %windir%/Inf
- wpdmtp.inf
But then you have to edit a .inf file to describe the attributes of your
player. This is beyond my technical ability. So ...
1) Am I right to think that I can get basic MP3 player use from the V
Plus just by installing the MTP Porting Kit, or do I really need to upgrade
to Windows XP?
2) If the Porting Kit will work, can anybody help me write a .inf file
that will be correct for the V Plus? I'd really by happy with just minimal
functionality.
Thanks for your help!
g***@hotmail.co.uk
2006-12-30 14:40:55 UTC
Permalink
Hi People,

I got this solution off creative's message board by The_Smurf
http://forums.creative.com/creativelabs/board/message?board.id=dap&message.id=165041&view=by_date_ascending&page=2

Here is the easiest solution for Windows 2000:

1. Download my own drivers with support for Zen V & Zen V Plus
http://www.yourfilehost.com/media.php?cat=other&file=5410MTP.zip
2. Unpack & Install MTP9x-2k.EXE
3. Choose ctpdmtp.inf & click right mouse button & select Install
4. Restart Windows
5. When Windows has booted up again plug your ZEN V in to a USB port,
if it askes for a driver please refer it to the ctpdmtp.inf file. (If
it doesn't ask for the drivers, start Add/Remove Hardware from Control
Panel and detect new hardware)
6. Download & install MediaMonkey
http://www.mediamonkey.com/download.htm
7. Now Zen V should work fine! It should appear as Creative Zen V or
Creative Zen V Plus in MediaMonkey after a few seconds.

I tried this for a friend and it works fine... but you still can't see
the Zen V as an external drive in an explorer window. You have to use
MediaMonkey to transfer files to your Zen.


Dean Hannotte (http://www.hannotte.net/ http://www.hannotte.net/)
Post by Dean Hannotte (http://www.hannotte.net/)
Somebody bought me a new Zen V Plus player from Creative, but
unfortunately I'm using Windows 2000, which is not officially supported. I
probably won't upgrade my OS for a few more years because I'm very concerned
about stability. In the meantime, I'd like to use the Zen in some way. Even
if I can't load all the supporting utility software from the accompanying CD,
there should be some way for me to be able to just copy files from my hard
disk to the Zen's file system and play them. That in itself would be a
quantum leap over having no MP3 player at all.
However, the V Plus does not look like a little hard disk to Windows, so
I can't use Explorer to copy the files. As far as I have been able to learn,
the V Plus uses flash memory and Media Transfer Protocol (MTP), which is
supported in Windows Media Player 10 (which is only supported under Windows
XP).
HOWEVER ... Microsoft recently released a Media Transfer Protocol Porting
Kit -- see http://msdn.microsoft.com/windowsmedia/downloads/default.aspx --
to add MTP support to WMPlayer 9, the last one that worked under Windows
2000. But it's not easy to set up. After installing it and reading the
Readme-Redist.txt file, you run MTP9x-2k.exe, which installs the following
- %windir%/System32/drivers
- wpdusb9x.sys (Windows 98SE or Windows ME)
OR wpdusb.sys (Windows 2000)
- %windir%/System32
- mtpiusb.dll
- mtpsmgr.exe
- mtpistb.dll
- mtpsp.dll
- %windir%/Inf
- wpdmtp.inf
But then you have to edit a .inf file to describe the attributes of your
player. This is beyond my technical ability. So ...
1) Am I right to think that I can get basic MP3 player use from the V
Plus just by installing the MTP Porting Kit, or do I really need to upgrade
to Windows XP?
2) If the Porting Kit will work, can anybody help me write a .inf file
that will be correct for the V Plus? I'd really by happy with just minimal
functionality.
Thanks for your help!
chris1379
2007-01-01 07:22:01 UTC
Permalink
Thanks a bunch! I still don't have it working yet under Win98SE but it
has to be possible. I sent Smurf a reply over in the Creative forum. If
anyone else is trying to get a Zen V working in Win98, feel free to
chime in.

Chris
Bob
2008-06-25 11:26:01 UTC
Permalink
Hi
I just saw your post (see below) - I know its really old info but...
Could you tell me if you think your drivers will work on my Win2K laptop
using a Creative Zen Stone 1GB as opposed to a Zen V?
Post by g***@hotmail.co.uk
Hi People,
I got this solution off creative's message board by The_Smurf
http://forums.creative.com/creativelabs/board/message?board.id=dap&message.id=165041&view=by_date_ascending&page=2
1. Download my own drivers with support for Zen V & Zen V Plus
http://www.yourfilehost.com/media.php?cat=other&file=5410MTP.zip
2. Unpack & Install MTP9x-2k.EXE
3. Choose ctpdmtp.inf & click right mouse button & select Install
4. Restart Windows
5. When Windows has booted up again plug your ZEN V in to a USB port,
if it askes for a driver please refer it to the ctpdmtp.inf file. (If
it doesn't ask for the drivers, start Add/Remove Hardware from Control
Panel and detect new hardware)
6. Download & install MediaMonkey
http://www.mediamonkey.com/download.htm
7. Now Zen V should work fine! It should appear as Creative Zen V or
Creative Zen V Plus in MediaMonkey after a few seconds.
I tried this for a friend and it works fine... but you still can't see
the Zen V as an external drive in an explorer window. You have to use
MediaMonkey to transfer files to your Zen.
Dean Hannotte (http://www.hannotte.net/ http://www.hannotte.net/)
Post by Dean Hannotte (http://www.hannotte.net/)
Somebody bought me a new Zen V Plus player from Creative, but
unfortunately I'm using Windows 2000, which is not officially supported. I
probably won't upgrade my OS for a few more years because I'm very concerned
about stability. In the meantime, I'd like to use the Zen in some way. Even
if I can't load all the supporting utility software from the accompanying CD,
there should be some way for me to be able to just copy files from my hard
disk to the Zen's file system and play them. That in itself would be a
quantum leap over having no MP3 player at all.
However, the V Plus does not look like a little hard disk to Windows, so
I can't use Explorer to copy the files. As far as I have been able to learn,
the V Plus uses flash memory and Media Transfer Protocol (MTP), which is
supported in Windows Media Player 10 (which is only supported under Windows
XP).
HOWEVER ... Microsoft recently released a Media Transfer Protocol Porting
Kit -- see http://msdn.microsoft.com/windowsmedia/downloads/default.aspx --
to add MTP support to WMPlayer 9, the last one that worked under Windows
2000. But it's not easy to set up. After installing it and reading the
Readme-Redist.txt file, you run MTP9x-2k.exe, which installs the following
- %windir%/System32/drivers
- wpdusb9x.sys (Windows 98SE or Windows ME)
OR wpdusb.sys (Windows 2000)
- %windir%/System32
- mtpiusb.dll
- mtpsmgr.exe
- mtpistb.dll
- mtpsp.dll
- %windir%/Inf
- wpdmtp.inf
But then you have to edit a .inf file to describe the attributes of your
player. This is beyond my technical ability. So ...
1) Am I right to think that I can get basic MP3 player use from the V
Plus just by installing the MTP Porting Kit, or do I really need to upgrade
to Windows XP?
2) If the Porting Kit will work, can anybody help me write a .inf file
that will be correct for the V Plus? I'd really by happy with just minimal
functionality.
Thanks for your help!
Tim
2007-07-06 04:22:05 UTC
Permalink
I have not been able to download pictures from my Canon Powershot SD1000 to
my Dell laptop running Vista Home Premium. The problem seems to be in the
Windows PTP driver, specifically the WpdUsb.sys driver. When I log into
msconfig, the tools tab confirms that WpdUsb driver is not started; and
instead, has stopped.

I cannot make Device Manager enable this driver.

Suggestions?
Thanks,
Tim
Post by Dean Hannotte (http://www.hannotte.net/)
Somebody bought me a new Zen V Plus player from Creative, but
unfortunately I'm using Windows 2000, which is not officially supported. I
probably won't upgrade my OS for a few more years because I'm very concerned
about stability. In the meantime, I'd like to use the Zen in some way. Even
if I can't load all the supporting utility software from the accompanying CD,
there should be some way for me to be able to just copy files from my hard
disk to the Zen's file system and play them. That in itself would be a
quantum leap over having no MP3 player at all.
However, the V Plus does not look like a little hard disk to Windows, so
I can't use Explorer to copy the files. As far as I have been able to learn,
the V Plus uses flash memory and Media Transfer Protocol (MTP), which is
supported in Windows Media Player 10 (which is only supported under Windows
XP).
HOWEVER ... Microsoft recently released a Media Transfer Protocol Porting
Kit -- see http://msdn.microsoft.com/windowsmedia/downloads/default.aspx --
to add MTP support to WMPlayer 9, the last one that worked under Windows
2000. But it's not easy to set up. After installing it and reading the
Readme-Redist.txt file, you run MTP9x-2k.exe, which installs the following
- %windir%/System32/drivers
- wpdusb9x.sys (Windows 98SE or Windows ME)
OR wpdusb.sys (Windows 2000)
- %windir%/System32
- mtpiusb.dll
- mtpsmgr.exe
- mtpistb.dll
- mtpsp.dll
- %windir%/Inf
- wpdmtp.inf
But then you have to edit a .inf file to describe the attributes of your
player. This is beyond my technical ability. So ...
1) Am I right to think that I can get basic MP3 player use from the V
Plus just by installing the MTP Porting Kit, or do I really need to upgrade
to Windows XP?
2) If the Porting Kit will work, can anybody help me write a .inf file
that will be correct for the V Plus? I'd really by happy with just minimal
functionality.
Thanks for your help!
adid4s
2008-02-05 10:31:00 UTC
Permalink
For those who have came across the following instructions but still have
problems getting your Zen V Plus to work on Windows 2k I may have some help

here are the instructions,

---from Creative forum---


Here is the easiest solution for Windows 2000:

1. Download my own drivers with support for Zen V & Zen V Plus
http://www.yourfilehost.com/media.php?cat=other&file=5410MTP.zip
2. Unpack & Install MTP9x-2k.EXE
3. Choose ctpdmtp.inf & click right mouse button & select Install
4. Restart Windows
5. When Windows has booted up again plug your ZEN V in to a USB port,
if it askes for a driver please refer it to the ctpdmtp.inf file. (If
it doesn't ask for the drivers, start Add/Remove Hardware from Control
Panel and detect new hardware)
6. Download & install MediaMonkey
http://www.mediamonkey.com/download.htm
7. Now Zen V should work fine! It should appear as Creative Zen V or
Creative Zen V Plus in MediaMonkey after a few seconds.

I tried this for a friend and it works fine... but you still can't see
the Zen V as an external drive in an explorer window. You have to use
MediaMonkey to transfer files to your Zen.


---from Creative Forum---

OK In step 5 where it explains, "if it askes for a driver please refer it to
the ctpdmtp.inf file", easiest way to do this is to FIRST put the
ctpdmtp.inf into the folder "C:\WINNT\system32" ( because otherwise you'll
have issues getting the installation to recognize the file. ... so to make
things a whole lot easier just put the ctpdmtp.inf into system32 before you
begin step 5 =)

any questions about this i'll be happy to anwser
Barry
2008-02-06 23:16:01 UTC
Permalink
Thanks guys, this has been very helpful, as I am in the same boat do not
choose to upgrade, quite happy with win2000. I bought this from Ecost.com
and the write up said it needed no software or drivers, assuming it was just
like another flash, I bought it. Well you know the rest.

Everything but MediaMonkey worked for me, I can't figure out how to get
files from the computer to the portable device. Send to?? In any event
after playing a long time I did some further research and found that once the
driver is loaded windows media player 9x will actually put files on the Zen
V. It isn't very pretty but it does work, that is all I really want is for
it to work. So some advice for those that can't get the mediamonkey to work,
windows media player might work for you.

Mediamonkey looks like it will do much more, if someone can tell me how to
use it. I did spend some time with the help file but got little from it.

Thanks,
Barry
Higor
2008-08-15 17:01:02 UTC
Permalink
Hey adid4s,
I bought a ZEN 8GB and I tried to follow the instructions here to get it
working in Windows 2k but it did't work. Win2k actually knows it's plugged
but I can't really install it. I also tried to install Media Monkey like
waiting for a miracle... but it did't happen :(
Do you have any idea on what can be done in order to get this "great" player
working on win2k?
Thanks a lot dude.
Post by adid4s
For those who have came across the following instructions but still have
problems getting your Zen V Plus to work on Windows 2k I may have some help
here are the instructions,
---from Creative forum---
1. Download my own drivers with support for Zen V & Zen V Plus
http://www.yourfilehost.com/media.php?cat=other&file=5410MTP.zip
2. Unpack & Install MTP9x-2k.EXE
3. Choose ctpdmtp.inf & click right mouse button & select Install
4. Restart Windows
5. When Windows has booted up again plug your ZEN V in to a USB port,
if it askes for a driver please refer it to the ctpdmtp.inf file. (If
it doesn't ask for the drivers, start Add/Remove Hardware from Control
Panel and detect new hardware)
6. Download & install MediaMonkey
http://www.mediamonkey.com/download.htm
7. Now Zen V should work fine! It should appear as Creative Zen V or
Creative Zen V Plus in MediaMonkey after a few seconds.
I tried this for a friend and it works fine... but you still can't see
the Zen V as an external drive in an explorer window. You have to use
MediaMonkey to transfer files to your Zen.
---from Creative Forum---
OK In step 5 where it explains, "if it askes for a driver please refer it to
the ctpdmtp.inf file", easiest way to do this is to FIRST put the
ctpdmtp.inf into the folder "C:\WINNT\system32" ( because otherwise you'll
have issues getting the installation to recognize the file. ... so to make
things a whole lot easier just put the ctpdmtp.inf into system32 before you
begin step 5 =)
any questions about this i'll be happy to anwser
Ned
2009-01-12 21:53:02 UTC
Permalink
Did you get this working? I've done exactly the same with a Zen Mosaic -
downloaded 5410mtp.zip, modified ctpdmtp.inf so it has the correct name, vip
and pid. It claims to instal but then has a driver error.

Any ideas?
Post by Higor
Hey adid4s,
I bought a ZEN 8GB and I tried to follow the instructions here to get it
working in Windows 2k but it did't work. Win2k actually knows it's plugged
but I can't really install it. I also tried to install Media Monkey like
waiting for a miracle... but it did't happen :(
Do you have any idea on what can be done in order to get this "great" player
working on win2k?
Thanks a lot dude.
Post by adid4s
For those who have came across the following instructions but still have
problems getting your Zen V Plus to work on Windows 2k I may have some help
here are the instructions,
---from Creative forum---
1. Download my own drivers with support for Zen V & Zen V Plus
http://www.yourfilehost.com/media.php?cat=other&file=5410MTP.zip
2. Unpack & Install MTP9x-2k.EXE
3. Choose ctpdmtp.inf & click right mouse button & select Install
4. Restart Windows
5. When Windows has booted up again plug your ZEN V in to a USB port,
if it askes for a driver please refer it to the ctpdmtp.inf file. (If
it doesn't ask for the drivers, start Add/Remove Hardware from Control
Panel and detect new hardware)
6. Download & install MediaMonkey
http://www.mediamonkey.com/download.htm
7. Now Zen V should work fine! It should appear as Creative Zen V or
Creative Zen V Plus in MediaMonkey after a few seconds.
I tried this for a friend and it works fine... but you still can't see
the Zen V as an external drive in an explorer window. You have to use
MediaMonkey to transfer files to your Zen.
---from Creative Forum---
OK In step 5 where it explains, "if it askes for a driver please refer it to
the ctpdmtp.inf file", easiest way to do this is to FIRST put the
ctpdmtp.inf into the folder "C:\WINNT\system32" ( because otherwise you'll
have issues getting the installation to recognize the file. ... so to make
things a whole lot easier just put the ctpdmtp.inf into system32 before you
begin step 5 =)
any questions about this i'll be happy to anwser
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